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References:
Quellen: [[Muay Thai]] [[Boxen]]
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## Warum Sparring
Wer eine Kampfkunst nur für die eigene Gesundheit trainiert, braucht vielleicht gar kein Sparring. Wer aber trainiert, um sich und andere zu schützen, oder sogar an Wettkämpfen teilnehmen will, für den ist Sparring unverzichtbar. In einer gewaltsamen Auseinandersetzung trifft die Angst das Gehirn – deshalb muss man sparren/rollen, um sich ihr zu stellen. Das oberste Ziel der Selbstverteidigung ist, körperlichen und rechtlichen Schaden zu vermeiden. Sparring ist ein einvernehmlicher Kampf, in dem man im Duell ein Gefühl für die Fähigkeiten verschiedener Trainingspartner bekommt. Man sollte diese beiden Situationen nicht vermischen, aber Sparring kann in einer späteren Selbstverteidigungssituation helfen. Können und Reaktion eines Menschen sind in verschiedenen Umgebungen verschieden, und die Umgebung zählt. Deshalb immer im Kopf behalten, wofür der jeweilige Teil des Trainings gedacht ist, und das richtige Werkzeug für die Aufgabe nehmen. Es ist nicht falsch, sich daran zu gewöhnen, getroffen zu werden – aber eine Selbstverteidigungssituation ist kein Punktekampf, und man sollte Treffer um jeden Preis vermeiden. Und: Ein Spitzenjäger in der Selbstverteidigung kann im Oktagon schlecht aussehen und umgekehrt.
Spiegelneuronen: Den anderen in dein Tempo locken (schnell oder langsam), dann den Rhythmus brechen, den Rhythmus wechseln.
Versuchen, eine bestimmte Aktion, Technik, Reaktion usw. umzusetzen – «auf bestimmte Ziele gehen». Andere Dinge kann man z. B. nach 20 Pässen anfangen.
Den Umfang des Sparrings weg von «Echtzeit, alles erlaubt» verkleinern. Sonst wartet man auf den perfekten Angle 1, der vielleicht nie kommt, weil man auf ihn wartet. Besser das Sparring auf ein oder zwei Angriffe reduzieren und wiederholen, bis man damit arbeiten kann.
Sparring-Progression:
- Hand-Hunting
- Hand + vorderes Bein
- Grappling
- Schulter
## Distanz-Sparring
Man hat ein bewegtes Ziel, kann aber dennoch an seiner Fussarbeit und seinen Kombis arbeiten, ohne gestört zu werden. Man darf sich in keinem Fall berühren.
Sobald das passt, kann man bei seinem Gegner nach Mustern suchen und versuchen, sie weiterhin auf Distanz zu kontern. Das können Bewegungen, aber auch Fehler in Kombis oder Eigenarten sein.
## 1 fĂĽr 1
Vorher ohne Deckung die Härte festlegen – wenn der Kopf nach hinten zuckt, ist es zu stark.
Kann schneller werden, alle Techniken erlaubt – aber die Härte bleibt gleich.
```mermaid
sequenceDiagram
participant A
participant B
A->>B: 1 Technik
B->>A: 1 Technik
Note over A,B: Abwechselnd, Härte bleibt gleich
```
## Technisches Sparring
Wir halten die Distanz, aber jetzt sind höchstens Hände und Füsse ein Ziel für leichte Angriffe. Das soll der Bewegungsschule dienen: Man muss den anderen durch seinen Körper so positionieren, dass man ihn treffen kann, ohne selbst getroffen zu werden.
## Vollkontakt-Sparring
## Sparring aufbauen
Knife Tapping 3–4 Wochen, dann Sparring. Ein paar einfache Regeln anwenden:
- Mit Messer: Kontrolle
- Ohne: Crash in
4 Walls 3–4 Wochen:
- Die Hände treffen, Hand-Hunting
- An den Kopf schlagen
- Ans vordere Bein schlagen
- Eine der 4 Walls anwenden
- Shifting/Footwork lernen und Prinzipien aus den Regeln anwenden
Erfahrene: die Distanz verkĂĽrzen, die Hand etwas herausstehen lassen.
Idee: eine Liste mit 50 Einschränkungen (zuerst springen, mit 3 beginnen, nur 3 oder 4 usw.) in Zettel schneiden, geheim ziehen und nach dem Kampf die Einschränkung des anderen erraten.
Anfangen, sich zu bewegen und den Partner zu beobachten: Bewegt er sich mit dir, wie bewegt er die vordere Schulter, die Waffe, die Hände usw.
Mit einem Gameplan beginnen; mit Erfahrung den Gameplan anpassen oder spiegeln.
Pressure-Testing-Sparring: Der Partner geht rein, versucht zu greifen und in dich zu crashen.
## Seminar-Notiz
Erfahrenen Spielern z. B. einen kürzeren Stock gegen Anfänger geben. Immer sparren, um etwas zu lernen: «Ich will mit Technik X treffen.»
## Sparring und Selbstverteidigung (Seminar-Notizen)
Mit dem Druck spielen. Kann man Selbstverteidigung ohne Sparring lernen? Sparring hat seinen Platz – mit Drillen allein bereitet man sich nicht auf einen echten Kampf vor.
- Hand-/Clinch-Sparring: lernen, wie und wann man schlägt
- Ablenkungen nutzen – eine Schreckreaktion (Flinch) provozieren
- Die Distanz zurĂĽckgewinnen
- Die Distanz kontrollieren
- Kontern lernen
- Mit dem Rücken zur Wand zurückkämpfen
Struktur schrittweise wegnehmen: Sumbrada – mehr Problemlösen, «du triffst, ich treffe», ausdrucksstärker; dann Sparring – treffen, wann man will. Footwork, Gili, Positionierung und Checking.
## Leichtes Sparring – langsam?
> On sparring:
> Yesterday it was noted in quite a popular post that:
> "Light sparring is NEVER slow! It does no good. It isn't realistic and a waste of your time."
> The subsequent conversation had the goalpost move several times --- appropriately so, because the statement above is just plain FALSE.
> The idea shifted, naturally, to such things as "defining slow" and noting instances when it is perfectly fine to go slow, as is the case with Muay Thai practitioners preserving their bodies etc.
> There were countless acceptable nuances that were simply not effectively covered by the definitive, narrow scoped statement.
> The benefit of narrowing a definition is that...well, it's possible that a small group can have a foundation to launch specific and narrowly focused discussion. But the issue is that when the conversation expands to a broader territory it falls apart. It doesn't apply.
> For example, the statement might hold more truth for competitive boxers than it might for capoeira practitioners. It may hold more truth for young, athletic competitors while alienating those who are either more experienced, older, less physically capable or beginners.
> When we use terms such as "always" and "never" we can almost be certain that it holds falsehoods even if it carries some truth.
> In the example above, we can all agree that sparring slowly isn't realistic --- in terms of speed. Remember that it also isn't realistic when it comes to power. But for some reason, negating power is fine, but negating speed in sparring is not okay. Already we are making concessions for the sake of safety for one and not the other. Who gets to make this call on our behalf? Who will claim an absolute, objective truth on behalf of the infinite variables that differentiate us?
> Can we be certain that "it does NO good"?
> How certain are we that "light sparring is NEVER slow"?
> And who determines what constitutes a waste of OUR time?
> Consider this:
> "The educational role of sparring is a matter of some debate. In any sparring match, precautions of some sort must be taken to protect the participants. These may include wearing protective gear, declaring certain techniques and targets off-limits, playing slowly or at a fixed speed, forbidding certain kinds of trickery, or one of many other possibilities.
> These precautions have the potential to change the nature of the skill that is being learned. For example, if one were to always spar with heavily padded gloves, one might come to rely on techniques that risk breaking bones in one's hand. Many schools recognize this problem but value sparring nonetheless because it forces the student to improvise, to think under pressure, and to keep their emotions under control.
> The level of contact is also debated, lighter contact may lead to less injuries but hard contact may better prepare individuals for competition or self-defense. Some sport styles, such as sanda, taekwondo, tang soo do, Kyokushin kaikan, kūdō, karate, kendo, and mixed martial arts use full contact sparring, though some of them, such as taekwondo (WT) and kendo make use of full-body protective gear"
> That was from wikipedia. There's so much more, but that quote seems well balanced, taking in a broader scope of consideration. It considers how the nature of sparring can potentially change "the nature of the skill that is being learned" --- but doesn't arbitrarily expand this cautionary note to such narrow, definitive conclusions.
> I was quite pleased to see so much resistance against such a narrow proposition. Even those that agreed with the spirit of the original post, myself included, understood the LIMITED value of light or slow sparring.
> The original post created a very healthy debate (for the most part)...and that is great! That'll happen.
> A post like this? Lengthy. More nuanced. More detailed. It rarely gets the kind of dialogue that a controversial post does. You'll notice the same patterns when forum members show "good stuff" --- it barely gets noticed. But show something slightly off center of standard practice and boom! The commentary lights up!
> This is the nature of things.
Quelle: https://www.facebook.com/groups/ApertureForum/permalink/1228438487489802/
## Throwdown Group
> We have an event that we host through ZAMA at the Fighting Arts Collective. We call this event the TDG or Throwdown Group. The entire purpose of this event is to give people the chance to spar, often with people outside their own training circle, an essential experience for any fighter who truly wants to know what they will do when faced with unknown parameters. The result of the event is the creation of training landmarks. Training has specific goals, these goals are tested in sparring, and the results of the sparring refocus our training.
Quelle: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=1342208239261371
## Techniken im Sparring prĂĽfen
> If you are unable to apply the techniques you train during your sparring sessions, you should reconsider the effectiveness of the techniques you are practicing and the quality of the training methods you have undergone.
> PG Fabrizio Mansur
Quelle: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=3065983420140539&id=100001867323858
## Seminar-Notizen
- Erst lernen, in den Gegner hineinzucrashen und worauf man achten muss; dann Counter-Footwork dazunehmen (Kreisen, beim ZurĂĽckweichen schneiden/schlagen, um den Crash zu kontern)
- NOK-Messer fĂĽrs harte Sparring
## What is Sparring? (David Bertrand)
> Sparring is not fighting. Sparring is training. Sparring is a game. It is about playing seriously. It is about applying all these techniques you learned. It allows you to test what works and what doesn’t work for you. Sparring is an organized chaos. It is the only exercise where you can fully improvise. You don’t know what you are going to do. You don’t know what your partner is going to do. Most of the time you don’t even know who you are going to spar with.
> As a martial artist, I have been doing sparring all over the world for many years. I learnt to spar with everybody. When you spar with someone taller, break the distance. When you spar with someone smaller, keep him away. If he is faster than you, read his body and develop your relfexes. If he is slower, work on advanced techniques or new things. If he is moving a lot, block him. If he is putting pressure on you, move. If he is better than you, develop your defensive game and get the best out of yourself. If you are better than him, develop your offensive game and help him to get better.
> Spar with beginners, with advanced guys, with coaches, with amateur and professional fighters. Spar in your gym and outside of your gym. Spar with people you know and people you don’t know. Spar with your students, spar with your teachers. You will learn from everyone. Sparring is about sharing. You can’t spar alone and you and your partner share the same passion. So always be respectful. Your sparring partner is not your opponent, he is not your enemy. If you didn’t know him before sparring, he might actually be your new friend.
> There is no losing in sparring. You will only lose if you lose control of yourself. Sparring will teach you to control your strength and your anger. It will teach you to overcome the fear of looking bad or losing. It will teach you how to adapt. You will learn to have fun even when it’s hard. You will learn to manage your energy. You will learn to have heart. You will learn to never quit. You will learn to hit and to get hit. You will learn to focus. Sparring is about self-expression. It is about self-knowledge. It is about martial friendship. That’s why I love sparring so much.
Quelle: https://www.facebook.com/david.bertrand.522/posts/10163512983185370
## Demonstration vs. Sparring (PG Fabrizio Mansur)
> It seems that there are more demonstration videos than sparring videos,could it be because with the demonstrations people makes a better impression than with the sparrings?
> The demonstration shows some characteristics of martial art that is practiced but does not show the fighting skill of the executer.
> In order to show the fighting skill acquired a sparring or a fight video is more appropriate.
Quelle: https://www.facebook.com/permalink.php?story_fbid=4027996530605885&id=100001867323858
## Thrust-Sparring (Training 10.03.2019)
Einer stösst, der andere muss verteidigen.
## Stock-Sparring (Trainings 2018/2019)
- **Demo-Sparring Single Stick:** 3 erlaubte Angriffe – Slice, BH-Slice, Thrust
- **Single-Stick-Sparring mit einem Handschuh:** das Gefecht endet, wenn die Hand getroffen wird – danach Liegestütz
- **One-Step Knife/Stick Sparring**